[9:50 AM] <webmacster87> SneakySimian: would you co-host the show today?
[9:57 AM] <IMakeStyles> That site design on douglasbell.us is sweet
[9:58 AM] <IMakeStyles> How's wordpress 3 to style? 
[9:59 AM] <IMakeStyles> I see, Template files still full of raw PHP?
[9:59 AM] <IMakeStyles> Boooooooo :(
[10:01 AM] <IMakeStyles> lol. Funny thing is phpBB is so much easier to style than Wordpress, yet so many more people style wordpress instead. Grrr
[10:02 AM] <IMakeStyles> That's true.
[10:03 AM] <IMakeStyles> yeah. The neat thing with Wordpress is that Theme Authors can add their own style options to the Admin Panel and what not. With phpBB, sure you can add variables which the Admin can edit by editing...
[10:03 AM] <IMakeStyles> ...a template file, but that's about it.
[10:04 AM] <IMakeStyles> Yeah, the UI is pretty neat in terms of aesthetics and accessibility
[10:04 AM] <SneakySimian> is the code better looking in 3.0? Because WP is soooooooo hard to read the code for.
[10:05 AM] <SneakySimian> I wish I could, I'm leaving for software.
[10:05 AM] <SneakySimian> *softball
[10:06 AM] <IMakeStyles> If David doesn't show up, and you end up cancelling the show...you should just release that 5 minutes you were talking about Wordpress / phpBB styles :P
[10:07 AM] <IMakeStyles> That would be a bit weird
[10:07 AM] <SneakySimian> yes. The next couple of weeks are a mess. I'm' moving, so that's keeping me busy.
[10:07 AM] <SneakySimian> And I'm out.
[10:07 AM] <IMakeStyles> Apparently voting for the libertyvasion t-shirts has begun
[10:07 AM] <IMakeStyles> in the .com staff forum
[10:08 AM] <IMakeStyles> Thanks to everyone who voted for me on here btw :P
[10:09 AM] <IMakeStyles> Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[10:10 AM] <IMakeStyles> Couldn't you guys postpone is like, 4 hours?
[10:11 AM] <IMakeStyles> that's cool
[10:12 AM] <IMakeStyles> Should of used firebug :)
[10:12 AM] <IMakeStyles> Whatttttttttttttttttt ?!?!
[10:12 AM] <planetstyles1> Would have really helped aswell 
[10:15 AM] <IMakeStyles> There's actually a style in "Styles in Development" which is apparently built "ground-up". Will fetch the link now
[10:15 AM] <planetstyles1> Can be alot more creative with wordpress
[10:15 AM] <IMakeStyles> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=185&t=2091056
[10:16 AM] <IMakeStyles> No Prosilver, No Subsilver (apparently)
[10:16 AM] <IMakeStyles> This is Christian 2.0 btw ;)
[10:17 AM] <IMakeStyles> there's a demo on page 2 I think
[10:17 AM] <IMakeStyles> Oh, the demo is disabled. Typical
[10:19 AM] <planetstyles1> with that style you could have made prosilver & subsiler 2 look like that, I don't see why they did it from the ground up.
[10:23 AM] <IMakeStyles> Additionally Wordpress has more of a "community". phpBB, sometimes seems like "Hey...here's our software oh and by the way we have a support forum"
[10:23 AM] <IMakeStyles> With the exception of official meet-ups, there isn't a great deal of "community-ness"
[10:23 AM] <planetstyles1> haha, true
[10:26 AM] <IMakeStyles> phpBB hasn't really made an effort to encourage community events. There was a forum added, but how many of the meet-up topics actually materialse into meet-ups?
[10:26 AM] <IMakeStyles> exactly
[10:27 AM] <planetstyles1> If they had an open bar there I would make sure I went every time.
[10:31 AM] <IMakeStyles> Do you think if phpBB sold swagger other then berties it would improve community outreach?
[10:31 AM] <IMakeStyles> Like you said, stickers, etc...T-shirts, mugs, hoodies
[10:32 AM] <IMakeStyles> Hugs
[10:32 AM] <planetstyles1> haha, yeah, but t-shirts would be cool
[10:33 AM] <IMakeStyles> "Come to our booth, and get a free hug from douglas bell"
[10:33 AM] <planetstyles1> haha
[10:36 AM] <IMakeStyles> Apparently there are still bugs with it
[10:39 AM] <IMakeStyles> In the discussion topic
[10:39 AM] <IMakeStyles> people moaning
[10:41 AM] <IMakeStyles> problem with public voting is that designers get their friends to make accounts and votes...even if they don't know what phpBB is :|
[10:41 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414#p12805694
[10:42 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=15#p12806945
[10:43 AM] <IMakeStyles> Only David didn't like it :P
[10:43 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=30#p12807454
[10:43 AM] <IMakeStyles> lol
[10:43 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=45#p12807993
[10:44 AM] <IMakeStyles> I like that design, but not as a software t-shirt
[10:44 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=60#p12808295
[10:44 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=60#p12809086
[10:45 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=60#p12809807
[10:45 AM] <IMakeStyles> Rich McGrr actually described working with graphics as comparable to "Sitting in the dentist chair waiting for a root canal"
[10:46 AM] <IMakeStyles> I lol'd at that
[10:46 AM] <webmacster87> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2094414&start=75#p12811213
[10:48 AM] <planetstyles1> Christian 2.0 to win!!
[10:52 AM] <IMakeStyles> Hey we milked it :P
[10:52 AM] <IMakeStyles> *winged
[10:56 AM] <IMakeStyles> I agree with David last week
[10:56 AM] <IMakeStyles> "It will be a celebration instead"
[10:59 AM] <IMakeStyles> No Style / Mod of the week? :o
[10:59 AM] <imkingdavid> style and mod of week? pls?
[10:59 AM] <imkingdavid> :P
[10:59 AM] <planetstyles1> Style of the week please?
[10:59 AM] <planetstyles1> :(
[10:59 AM] <imkingdavid> :(
[11:00 AM] <imkingdavid> k bye
[11:00 AM] <imkingdavid> :)
[11:00 AM] <IMakeStyles> Wooooooot
[11:00 AM] <planetstyles1> Good show!
[11:00 AM] <IMakeStyles> Douglas, planetstyles is hosting a talk-show later. Got any advice for him? :P
[11:01 AM] <planetstyles1> Advice :P 
[11:01 AM] <IMakeStyles> Make notes 
[11:01 AM] <IMakeStyles> and lots of them (6)
[11:02 AM] <IMakeStyles> What's the story behind tag, you're it?
[11:03 AM] <planetstyles1> Cheers for the advice!
[11:04 AM] <IMakeStyles> Except david always sounds alseep when he says it :P
[11:09 AM] <IMakeStyles> Anyone watching the USA v Ghana game later?
[11:09 AM] <IMakeStyles> well, in 20 minutes actually
[11:11 AM] <webmacster87> bye all
[11:11 AM] <IMakeStyles> cya