[2:55 PM] we're getting set up [2:55 PM] starting in 5 minutes [2:57 PM] again the official live stream is at www.phpbbweekly.net [2:59 PM] someone should put this channel on the projector [3:00 PM] i can't because i'm gonna be multitasking on my computer [3:00 PM] organizing questions and live-blogging [3:01 PM] the mics are off until the teamies are ready to get started [3:01 PM] working on it ;) [3:01 PM] decrease the DPI [3:02 PM] decrease the DPI [3:03 PM] much better [3:03 PM] HELLO EVERYBODY <3 [3:03 PM] hi nubs [3:03 PM] /ns identify WeLoveBertiesOMG [3:03 PM] hi nickregressionnub :P [3:03 PM] lol [3:04 PM] now we're all set except for the team members [3:04 PM] geez xchat is uuugly. ;) [3:04 PM] what are you talking about, x-chat is lovely [3:04 PM] yes [3:04 PM] just a reminder, the official audio stream is on the home page of www.phpBBWeekly.net [3:04 PM] Awesome. [3:05 PM] x-chat is nice for being a GTK app :P [3:05 PM] CTCP mirc reply “5.91 (16 bit) for Microsoft © Windows For WorkGroups 3.11®” from Marshalrusty [3:06 PM] remember to ask questions that we can ask the teamies, lest i have to make some up ;) [3:06 PM] right. how many of the teamies have ever had sex before? ask that one! hah! [3:06 PM] number one: what therrible physical punishment is intended for webmacster87 later? [3:06 PM] lol [3:06 PM] +1 [3:08 PM] kellanved: oh but that one is easy. his punishment will come tomorrow morning after tonight's free drinks ;) [3:08 PM] probably [3:08 PM] and in the right corner... [3:09 PM] yes [3:09 PM] nice polo shirts [3:09 PM] I wonder what AJD is going to say [3:10 PM] EGO [3:10 PM] brilliant template [3:11 PM] That it was [3:11 PM] please don't make me ask all the questions -- i will if i have to, but they probably won't be as good ;) [3:11 PM] boo! [3:12 PM] black screen of death [3:12 PM] will we get pretty urls soon???? [3:12 PM] no to quick reply [3:13 PM] quick reply ftw! [3:14 PM] this is Steve Maury talking right now [3:15 PM] what about with symfony [3:16 PM] and phpBB4 [3:16 PM] nils adermann talking now [3:17 PM] Jonothan is fixing Yuriy's Computer [3:17 PM] Jono! [3:18 PM] smithy_dll: he was not formatting his HD, so no fixing there [3:18 PM] the mod team talked about how we can get involved with the mod team, but what about people who can't code but want to help? [3:19 PM] Its SHS`|nub [3:19 PM] Kione, documentation and moderation [3:19 PM] Kione: and support of course [3:19 PM] Styles <3 :P [3:20 PM] and phpBB is a great platform for learning how to code [3:20 PM] how many times did he say hooks in one sentence?! [3:20 PM] ˅ Yuriy [3:20 PM] fail chris is fail [3:20 PM] chris is nub [3:20 PM] ok, knock it off and ask interesting questions ;) [3:21 PM] spam: contributing to open source: http://www.leftontheweb.com/message/Contributing_to_Open_Source [3:21 PM] Notepad++! [3:21 PM] hello, what is this whole "phpBB" thing? [3:21 PM] Sam-T++ [3:21 PM] something about php [3:21 PM] wow that was a random /slap function [3:21 PM] All wave to yuriy [3:22 PM] webmacster87: what effect will moving to PHP5.3 only for phpBB4 have on the user base, does the team think? will it help php5.3 adoption or lower phpBB4 adoption? [3:22 PM] I would recommend the book that SHS`nub recommended to me, "Producing Open Source Software" by Karl Fogel [3:22 PM] notepad++ ftw [3:22 PM] there is nothing wrong with Visual Studio 2010 [3:23 PM] to be honest, ive never ran vs [3:23 PM] or anything right [3:23 PM] smithy_dll: it runs on windows only [3:23 PM] very wrong [3:23 PM] spam: http://producingoss.com/en/index.html [3:23 PM] $$$$$$$$$ [3:23 PM] $$ $$ [3:23 PM] $$ $$ [3:23 PM] Crimson? Finally! [3:23 PM] $$ I'M A NUB $$ [3:23 PM] $$ $$ [3:23 PM] $$ $$ [3:23 PM] $$$$$$ [3:24 PM] $ $ [3:24 PM] yes you are kellanved [3:24 PM] $ $$ [3:24 PM] $ [3:24 PM] Finally someone who also uses a 5-year-old Text editor! [3:24 PM] $ [3:24 PM] nickvergessen thank you for braking it [3:24 PM] oh noes notepad++ [3:24 PM] breaking [3:24 PM] lol [3:24 PM] hehe [3:24 PM] xD [3:24 PM] <3 [3:24 PM] PHPStorm FTW [3:25 PM] oh dear [3:25 PM] this is stefan koopmanschap [3:25 PM] | | | _ \ _ | \ | | | | |_ _| [3:25 PM] | | | | | | | | | \| | | | | | | [3:25 PM] | | | | | | | | | . ` | | | | | | [3:25 PM] | | | |/ /\ \_/ / |\ | |_| | | | [3:25 PM] | | |___/ \___/\_| \_/\___/ \_/ [3:25 PM] | | [3:25 PM] |_| [3:25 PM] __ __ [3:25 PM] \ \ / / [3:25 PM] \ \ / / [3:25 PM] \ \ / / [3:25 PM] lol [3:25 PM] hahahaha [3:25 PM] the suspense [3:25 PM] wow [3:25 PM] what's with all the spamming [3:26 PM] You're gonna get into trouble for that Douglas :P [3:26 PM] Jim-A: i'm leaving in ten days, you guys can't do anything to me [3:26 PM] lol [3:26 PM] The BertieZilla finds you anywhere :P [3:26 PM] BertieZilla is watching you. o.O [3:27 PM] well phpBB should have a lot of clout now to encourage hosters to upgrade, there is plenty of competition from hosters who do upgrade [3:28 PM] I was thinkng the same thing [3:28 PM] Stop it [3:28 PM] if anything, this should incourage hosts to be up to date [3:29 PM] lmfao [3:29 PM] "private services" [3:29 PM] s/incourage/encourage [3:29 PM] but phpBB is one of the first major end-user PHP applications to make the switch, so will it encourage hosters enough to make the switch? [3:29 PM] I personally believe that absolutely yes it will [3:29 PM] because we have a huge user base [3:29 PM] and power millions of sites [3:29 PM] thats a big number of potential lost customers for a host [3:30 PM] skoop, gophp5.org had big support, we're not the only ones... [3:31 PM] ameeck: but gophp5.org was not initiated until 4 or 5 years after the release of PHP5 [3:31 PM] remembering how slow phpBB were to adopt 5.0 (cough phpBB 2.0), it's come a long way [3:31 PM] interesting discussion [3:31 PM] at the time when it became being completely ridiculous to stick with 4 [3:31 PM] what does phpbb think of forums going extinct because of social networks? [3:32 PM] why not teenage boys [3:32 PM] teenage boys play video games [3:32 PM] does the support team still get lots of "how do I get more members to my community?" questions? if so, how do they respond to this? [3:32 PM] skoop: yeah, GD has them all the time [3:32 PM] There's quite a long running topic on it i think [3:33 PM] *GD = General Discussion on phpbb.com [3:33 PM] yah, I realize that one :) [3:33 PM] everybody want's to have a large community and influence [3:34 PM] skoop: What I usually did when I was still on the support topic, was linking to that topic and saying the keyboards: "Content, hard work, originality" [3:34 PM] how old is AJD now [3:34 PM] 12 [3:34 PM] Yes, people from 14 to 71 IIRC webmacster78 [3:34 PM] 12 already?! [3:34 PM] His picture on the libteryvasion page looks like he walked out of the 80s [3:34 PM] but which base? [3:35 PM] he was in suspended animation for 10 years [3:35 PM] during his ban from IRC? [3:35 PM] His hair is still from 1970 [3:35 PM] age doesn't matter! I agree! :) [3:35 PM] I never think about age when I'm on the forums or IRC [3:35 PM] this is Tom [3:35 PM] i'm still in suspended animation [3:35 PM] i hope someone wakes me up someday [3:36 PM] not you're just suspended. [3:36 PM] *no [3:36 PM] yeah age doesn't really matter too much [3:36 PM] well alot of the people in this room started with the project since they were 13 or 14, many are now in the mid-20s [3:37 PM] webmacster87: is the alarm clock connected to a bomb, by any chance? [3:37 PM] Age and intelligence are 2 different things [3:37 PM] the average age, i imagine, varies quite a bit depending on the team [3:37 PM] +1 to stickerboy [3:37 PM] where is Neothermic to give stats? [3:37 PM] who is elvis? [3:37 PM] this is Paul (MOD team) speaking [3:37 PM] i suspect hte support and moderator team have the largest differences [3:37 PM] smithy_dll: I became Support team member when I was 13. [3:38 PM] Whenever you get a mod denied, this is the guy who does it [3:38 PM] go paul! go paul! [3:38 PM] whereas the dev team seems to have people mostly the same age, give or take 5 years [3:38 PM] +1 to paul [3:38 PM] Yeah, he's true. [3:38 PM] "u gut 2 run support toolki7 foo" [3:38 PM] Well, for some people that kind of support works :P [3:39 PM] THE END IS NIGH, RUN!!!! [3:39 PM] We should start hiring those people :P [3:39 PM] lol [3:39 PM] did i miss any questions? [3:39 PM] 13 year old girls use myspace [3:39 PM] if you haven't gotten yours asked yet, ask again [3:39 PM] I use myspace :P [3:39 PM] webmacster87: yes [3:39 PM] webmacster87: scroll back? ;) [3:39 PM] like stickerboy [3:40 PM] too much banter in here for me to scroll back quickly [3:40 PM] ¤Aug21¤12:26PM¤ {-skoop-} but phpBB is one of the first major end-user PHP applications to make the switch, so will it encourage hosters enough to make the switch? [3:40 PM] webmacster87: does the support team still get lots of "how do I get more members to my community?" questions? if so, how do they respond to this? [3:40 PM] oh [3:40 PM] that onme [3:40 PM] lmao [3:40 PM] ;) [3:40 PM] skoop: ok, that's up next :) [3:40 PM] very good questions skoop [3:41 PM] any other Qs? [3:41 PM] what would you say is the most valuable lesson you've learned from phpbb? [3:41 PM] I had another one, but forgot :( ;) [3:41 PM] TerraFrost: nice one [3:42 PM] Does the MOD team notice differences in the MODs submitted today as to compared to MODs submitted a few years ago [3:42 PM] TerraFrost, excellent experience working with people in a pseudo engineering environment with a large team [3:42 PM] will do kellanved's question, then TerraFrost's question [3:43 PM] webmacster87: has this been answered? (09:22:24 PM) skoop: webmacster87: what effect will moving to PHP5.3 only for phpBB4 have on the user base, does the team think? will it help php5.3 adoption or lower phpBB4 adoption? [3:43 PM] yup [3:43 PM] hell, I learned so much from being in the Support Team. interacting with other people, interacting with users that might not have technical knowledge, ways how communities work [3:43 PM] bantu: yes [3:43 PM] bantu: yes that question was answered [3:43 PM] kellanved: well as new technology arises (i.e. facebook like buttons, retwit things, etc.) new MODs utilize that type of stuff [3:43 PM] i think the answer to my question, for me, is that i've gained an appreciation of web app security that i never would have had without phpbb [3:43 PM] missed that somehow, thanks [3:44 PM] Also a lot more ajax is used now than before [3:45 PM] jquery FTW [3:46 PM] TerraFrost: you want to ask your question yourself? [3:46 PM] webmacster87, I think he should [3:46 PM] not really - i'm kinda... voice shy [3:46 PM] ok no prob [3:46 PM] go on [3:46 PM] that's why i get paid the big bucks... oh wait... [3:46 PM] :P [3:47 PM] lol [3:47 PM] i've learned a bit from it myself [3:48 PM] same here, I never touched php until I wanted to mod my phpBB [3:48 PM] likewise [3:48 PM] same [3:48 PM] Typo: same here [3:48 PM] so it really opened a big door for me there, also, I dont think I ever realized the kind of organization a project like phpBB requires to succeed [3:48 PM] mostly the same here. i dabbled around with it in 2001, didn't do much of anything in it, and then in 2003 did phpbb stuff [3:48 PM] phpBB is an excellent platform to learn o [3:48 PM] on* [3:49 PM] Tom24: I agree [3:50 PM] webmacster87: another question: in the general php world, phpBB still has a name of being vulnerable to hacks and such, which is a name that it got in the phpBB2 era and has never lost. How can phpBB get rid of this reputation? Are there initiatives to do this? [3:50 PM] skoop: i have one quick question to ask first [3:50 PM] sure [3:50 PM] before we open that can of worms ;) [3:50 PM] LOL [3:50 PM] Oh, yes. That's an interesting question skoop. In the OSCON 2010 post on the phpBB.com Blog, it appears we are starting to slightly lose that. :) [3:51 PM] That OSCON post was glorious. [3:51 PM] link? [3:52 PM] http://blog.phpbb.com/2010/07/28/oscon-2010/ [3:52 PM] oh yeah, I was there [3:52 PM] http://www.phpbb.com/get-involved/ [3:52 PM] I wrote the blog post :P [3:52 PM] LOL [3:52 PM] lmao [3:53 PM] last chance to ask questions before this session concludes [3:54 PM] ooh ooh... what date is 3.1 going to be released!?!?!?!?oneone!!!? [3:54 PM] Last question, how does it feel having Quick Reply inside now? :P [3:54 PM] Jim-A: did that question at the start [3:54 PM] just what I wanted to hear :) [3:54 PM] 2 years ago, that was really funny at Londonvasion :P [3:54 PM] Damnit, missed that. Thankies. :) [3:54 PM] Any plans for an official Wordpress bridge? [3:54 PM] How does phpBB intend to compete with other (paid or unpaid) bulletin board software? [3:54 PM] link to the study by qualus? [3:54 PM] Christian20: i'm hoping to give that a try myself in the near future [3:54 PM] Aeronaut: was kinda sorta asked already [3:54 PM] eek [3:55 PM] Ah, okay. [3:55 PM] Typo, that's got nothing to do with security, just how updated various software is updated [3:55 PM] fail english is fail [3:55 PM] the audio of this will be released later [3:55 PM] and video within a week or two, by the teams [3:55 PM] webmacster87: was it asked? [3:55 PM] well they talked about commercialising phpBB [3:55 PM] webmacster87: Thanks, I will listen to that :) [3:55 PM] Sam-T: we can ask it again if they want [3:56 PM] why is it 3.1 and not 3.2 [3:56 PM] lol [3:56 PM] smithy_dll, because we don't use the old numbering scheme [3:56 PM] ahh [3:56 PM] smithy_dll: We have a new numbering system [3:57 PM] modified a bit [3:57 PM] smithy_dll: that was announced late july 2009 [3:57 PM] I am actually looking up the topic now, but phpBB.com doesn't really load. [3:57 PM] Jim-A, it's just you [3:57 PM] bokt.nl is a pony site correct? [3:57 PM] Jim-A: loads for me fine [3:57 PM] http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1715935 [3:58 PM] Yeah, my PC has been weird for some days now. [3:58 PM] smithy_dll: Horse, not pony [3:59 PM] it's a shame Nate Abele isn't here right now or we could ridicule Lithium ;) [3:59 PM] XD [3:59 PM] lol yay [4:00 PM] Welcome. :P [4:00 PM] OK, Let's go get drunk! [4:00 PM] Where's the free food? [4:00 PM] bye bye [4:00 PM] woo hoo!! [4:00 PM] :D [4:00 PM] FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD [4:00 PM] FREE FOOD [4:00 PM] Has anyone reall been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? [4:00 PM] l8rz David King [4:00 PM] some one want to send me some free food? :) [4:00 PM] how can you eat now? [4:00 PM] Enjoy the free foodzz all [4:00 PM] soo much for lunch [4:00 PM] *really. Dangit. [4:00 PM] food later too [4:00 PM] etc. [4:01 PM] jumbotron? [4:01 PM] s/food/beer <3 [4:01 PM] naderman: I'm not sure if and when I will have dinner [4:01 PM] ...Free beer? [4:01 PM] oh well you are excused :P [4:01 PM] free beer as in free speech [4:01 PM] Aeronaut, no, free as in speech [4:01 PM] Ah. [4:01 PM] open source beer [4:01 PM] thanks all for showing up and contributing [4:01 PM] ^ XD [4:01 PM] That was a great session [4:01 PM] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Beer_Project [4:01 PM] once again, audio will be released on phpBBWeekly.net hopefully within the next 24 hours [4:02 PM] as will this chat log [4:02 PM] and the phpBB teams will release video of all sessions within the next 1-2 weeks [4:02 PM] lol [4:02 PM] Indeed, thanks to ll for showing upo and contributing [4:02 PM] The chat log will be quite desired [4:02 PM] I wonder if he realizes he's still being filmed? [4:02 PM] oh yeah, stop the tape :P [4:03 PM] No, don't. :P [4:03 PM] Quick, someone zoom in on the phone! [4:03 PM] stickerboy is filming paul [4:03 PM] Hi, Sam! [4:04 PM] hi [4:04 PM] So regarding the competition question, is phpBB working on a pony mod? [4:05 PM] Only a pony Style created by prototech iirc [4:05 PM] Aeronaut: Bertie is currently on that. :P [4:06 PM] Oh, wow. :P [4:07 PM] lol @ the pony mod [4:07 PM] there is a bertie mod (or there was for 2.0) [4:08 PM] RMcGirr83: That's what you were hired for to the MOD Team, as you'll soon find out :P [4:09 PM] I thought it was for the team beer mod ;) [4:09 PM] Too [4:13 PM] #phpbb-chanops [4:14 PM] lol whoops [4:14 PM] fail [4:14 PM] epic thanks [4:34 PM] how much does phpbb pay to employ titania? [4:34 PM] titania is GPL software writen mostly by EXreaction [4:36 PM] i know - it was a bad attempt at humor / sarcasm ;) [4:36 PM] is it Titanic? [4:38 PM] :P [4:38 PM] it hasn't sunk yet, at least :P [4:38 PM] lol [4:39 PM] maybe the next version of the website should be called iceberg [4:39 PM] lol [4:40 PM] go the eff aye que [4:40 PM] smithy_dll: you just want Titania to sink, don't you? [4:41 PM] skoop, I have limited material here to work with [4:41 PM] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY [4:41 PM] skoop: What do you look like? [4:41 PM] smithy_dll: and that's no excuse to just stop working? ;) [4:42 PM] YuriyRusko: I have long dark hair, D cup, dark brown eyes, long legs... [4:42 PM] Do you like moonlit walks on the beach? [4:42 PM] I have a friend who would like to meet you [4:42 PM] YuriyRusko: oooh that sounds exciting... I'm getting all... nevermind [4:43 PM] old joker [4:43 PM] skoop, how old is your son now? 3 years? [4:43 PM] no-one remembers the fack vs the eff ae que thread? [4:43 PM] of course I do [4:43 PM] A_Jelly_Donut: 5 [4:43 PM] A_Jelly_Donut: that question in this context is soo creepy [4:44 PM] lol [4:44 PM] 3.1? [4:45 PM] A_Jelly_Donut: why slap him remotely when he's only a couple of steps away? [4:45 PM] no scene is needed for a virtual slap ^_^ [4:46 PM] IST = International Support Team? [4:46 PM] A_Jelly_Donut: but a real one is much more fun [4:46 PM] skoop: I wanted to hand you the Bertie with the bug in there [4:46 PM] So A_Jelly_Donut can sky on your family [4:46 PM] smithy_dll: yeah [4:46 PM] naderman was in on it too [4:46 PM] that is pretty cool [4:47 PM] works well with the concept of MODX where it is language independent [4:49 PM] any plans for a feature where ISTs can syndicate the phpbb.com database with titania? [4:50 PM] hm, I wanted to leave at 17:30 but I guess I can hang around until after this talk :) [4:50 PM] given that it ends at 17:40 [4:50 PM] skoop, I think yuriy wants you to come to dinner [4:50 PM] smithy_dll: there have been discussions about that [4:51 PM] but idea what the current status is [4:51 PM] meet his "special friend" [4:51 PM] smithy_dll: I've already asked [4:52 PM] if anyone is still watching, you can ask questions to cullen here [4:53 PM] i'll collect them ;) [4:54 PM] webmacster87: I thought the stream was offline [4:54 PM] it is, but there are some unofficial ones around the intarwebs ;) [4:54 PM] when will the pr0n start? [4:54 PM] will there be pictures of bear hookers? [4:55 PM] lol [4:55 PM] skoop, only the best [4:55 PM]